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Hello everybody.
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We are live.
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We are a couple minutes late.
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You know how technology goes.
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It never goes as good as you think it's going to.
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But I've got my guests on that, I can hear them, they can hear me, so that's all great.
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My guests tonight are Jesse Sr and Jesse Jr.
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That you know.
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I don't ever call him Jesse Jr, I call him little Jesse, but I don't know if he really likes that or not, because he's pretty little, but anyway, these guys are family to me.
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Jesse's going to be or already is really a grandchild.
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He's marrying my granddaughter and that makes his dad family as well.
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So welcome to the show family.
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We're going to talk to these guys tonight about their racing careers, about how they got started in racing.
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We're going to touch a little bit on Adam Jesse's brother, little Jesse's uncle, that we lost in the spring, and they're having a memorial race for him at Galesburg on Saturday.
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So we're going to touch on all of those things tonight.
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And so, guys, I want to welcome you to the show and I appreciate that you were willing to come on and and talk to me about your racing career and how you got started.
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So, jesse, senior, I know you started before little Jesse did, so why don't we start with you?
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I know you started before little Jesse did, so why don't we start with you?
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Tell me how did you get involved in motorsports and and who got you started?
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And then, why did you pass it down to little Jesse?
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Well, I pretty much grew up at Galesburg.
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Ever since I was born I pretty much there with my dad.
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No-transcript work, but it's time with family, it's the most.
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I mean you got one big family at the racetrack.
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Everyone gets along.
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I mean you have your ups and downs, but and then I, jesse, got into it and he's always wanted to learn how to do it and I just help him as much as I can with what we have yeah, so your dad was really the one that got all of you started then he was the first generation in your family that raced yeah, actually the Richter side.
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Might it had been my dad's uncle, uncle don richter.
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He started way back and that's the first one I know that was in the family that started okay, and so then your dad started, and he drove a front wheel drive to start no, actually he drove a rear-wheel drive road warriors back in the day.
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Okay, everything's changed, hasn't it?
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You know the names and the kind of cars, and and so yeah, it's.
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It's that's why I like to tell the stories, because people see you at the track week after week and and you guys are known, your name is known in the racing circles, and yet we don't really know how did you get there?
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And I love telling the story, so that's, you know.
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That's one reason I wanted to have you guys on tonight, so tell me what you're racing now now I'm racing the street stock.
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Hey, we had a running late model and it just a lot of work to keep up with those cars and a lot of time in the shop and stuff.
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But we moved down down a class.
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That's a lot more competitive, a lot more fun and it's something I like doing.
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I like to race with cars all together.
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I hate racing single file.
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I do not like it at all.
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It's boring and it's no fun and then you're just there just to show up it's not worth it.
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Yeah, and really the street stocks are one of my favorite classes because they're always competitive yeah, we're all so close in time and it's no one's twice as fast as anybody else, and it's all, we're all together yeah, and you normally race at galesburg, but do you ever go anywhere else to race, or is that where you pretty much want to stick to?
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Well?
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this year I'm sticking there just because of what happened to my brother in the spring.
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I've raised since 95.
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I've never won a track championship and right now I'm leading it.
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I don't want to go anywhere and you know, you never know what's gonna happen in a car or it's track.
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I mean, my dad told me I got a backup car, but I don't.
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I want to do it my own.
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I do.
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I like going to kalamazoo.
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I've been to m40.
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I've been to bobville springport.
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I have raced um at corrigan when it was spartan speedway before.
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I've never been anywhere else other than them.
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I've been up to ottawa.
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I have been up there and raced up north.
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Yeah.
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But if you want to win a championship, the best thing to do is stick at the track Because, like you said, you could go to Kalamazoo for one of their big special races or something, and who knows what would happen, and then that blows your chances at Galesburg.
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And so you know a lot of people that race for championships or going for points stick at their track.
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They rarely go anywhere else.
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And so I saw you were leading points and and that's good.
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So what's your favorite thing about the racing?
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Why, you know it's expensive, it's time consuming, it's it's hot.
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In fact, you know I have a different background tonight, guys, because actually in arizona, at one of my daughters and it's only 108 here right now and it's, you know, four o'clock in the afternoon- so that's why my background's a little different.
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But um, you know, it's been hot in kalamazoo too, so why do you keep going back week after week?
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it's something I enjoy.
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I mean it's a lot of family time it's.
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I get to do it with my dad.
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I've always done it with my dad since I've started.
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I've always been there for him and now I got my kids into it and we're all there together.
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It's something we get to do together and spend all day together doing something that we like to do?
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yeah, exactly, and you got a lot of fans in the stands too.
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Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, there's a lot of them that walk up to me and talk to me and I don't even know who they are.
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Yeah, and then I can walk by them and they call me.
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It really hurts me when they call me by adam.
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Just they don't know the difference, so they they'll say adam, but I'll answer, just just because but yeah, yeah and and it's hard because, you know, maybe there's some people that don't follow racing as closely as we all do and they don't really know that he's not with us anymore, and so they see a van avery and a racer, and you did look a lot alike, and so it's understandable that there could be some confusion.
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Now your dad's racing again this year too yep, he's actually driving adam's car first time.
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I want to say seven years, I think he's been out seven or eight years he hasn't raced, and that was once that happened.
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He said he was driving adam's car this year.
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I don't know if he's going to keep going or he's just doing it for a memorial thing.
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Yeah, and how old is your dad, do you know?
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67.
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Okay, so he's younger than I am.
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So he's still young, and he can be driving a car for a while yet.
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Yeah, with the seven years he took off.
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He always says after the races he's out of shape.
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But yeah, once you ain't doing it, no more it gets to you.
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Well, and you know, it's just like anything you do If you don't do it for a while, you lose your muscle memory and you lose all the little tricks and tips that you remember doing when you raced before.
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So you got to kind of get all that back.
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Yeah, it's taken him a while.
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He's getting there, but he's still wore out after every weekend.
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But it's something he loves to do, so he's going to stay out there and keep doing it.
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Yeah, and it's great to see him out there driving that car.
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It really is so little jesse, we're gonna, we're gonna put you on the spot here now.
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So come on, tell me, do you like little jesse, or, or what?
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What do you really like?
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Because I'm going to be your mama.
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I want to call you the right thing uh, I don't, I don't know, I don't think it really matters.
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A lot of people come, a lot of different things, so I guess I kind of just roll with what feels good off your tongue.
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So okay whatever all right?
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well, normally I don't have both of you in the same room at the same time, so it's not a problem, but so I'm I'm gonna try to post the comments as they come up so you guys can see them and so you can see who's watching, and just so you know, a lot of times we have a lot of people that watch later, but we'll put the comments up as they come in.
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So, jesse, how old were you when you started racing?
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I want to say maybe 15, 16-ish when I first drove a race car, dave Yale, actually let me hot lap one of his front-wheel drives that he had.
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I think he had like seven or eight at the time.
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He let me hot lap one of them, and he felt I was good enough, I guess, to race it, so he let me race him a couple nights here and there.
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He felt I was good enough, I guess, to race it, so he let me race him a couple nights here and there.
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And then one eventful night over the I believe it was springtime, me and my buddy, billy, had rolled his Dodge Neon on ML and my dad first thing he said to me was does it still run?
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So I was like oh, I think, so I can ask him.
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So we ended up buying that and then turned that into a race car.
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I believe within a week had it completely stripped out and then cage in it, race ready.
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And then I don't think I've really missed punch racing since then, maybe minus of a year or two, I think so since I since I was 15, 16, I'd say- and how old are you now?
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24.
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24.
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25 in December.
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Yep.
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Yeah, so almost 10 years, eight, 10 years you've been racing, yep.
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And you started in that kind of car?
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What other series of cars have you driven, or?
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have you driven In 2020, well, 2019, that neon blew up and then it just those cars with all the wiring and computers.
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We don't know much about them.
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So we just decided to scrap that idea and had ended up starting to build a street stock over the winter of 2019, and then the whole COVID and everything happened and whatnot, and that street stock that I had partially built, me and grandpa put together, turns out to be adam's car that he's racing now so.
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But we ended up buying al johnson street stock, the professor.
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Uh, I believe it was still 2020.
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We bought that and I had raced it at Montville a couple times and ran for points down there, finished fourth, and then the year after that we just changed the body on it, did a couple updates and I think I raced that one more year, I'm pretty sure.
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And then we moved up to a template, I believe three years ago, and then kind of just been there and then I hopped into Street Stock a couple times, just here and there, but mainly just been in the template recently.
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Yeah, you drove Maddie's Street Stock.
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I think one time yeah.
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I actually drove Maddie's Street Stock a couple times.
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That trophy right there is with Maddie's Street Stock.
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I believe that one is with Al Johnson's Street Stock.
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I believe that one is with al johnson street stock.
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That's my favorite one, just because I uh, I like to say I beat brock ganas for that one, so I take pride in that one okay yep, and then I I drove, uh, my dad's street stock one night this year or last year.
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So yeah, I kind of bouncing around, yeah, but mostly, mostly, you're in the, the late model, yeah, yeah, and so you guys have.
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You know, adam was number two and that's still the number on the car that that grandpa drives.
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Um, you guys were different numbers, um 38 I know little jesse was and jesse, what was your number?
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Mine was 38 too.
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That's what I was thinking, but I didn't want to say it wrong.
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But this year everybody's number two and you want to share, jesse Sr, why you changed your numbers.
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Well, we were debating on doing it and we did it for Adam him passing away and then everybody wanted to know what I was doing.
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I wasn't sure and everybody asked me what I wanted in my car and we ended up getting a picture of the old Dodge Challenger that I haven't owned and Kevin England did the rap on it and I picked that car.
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I said that's what I want to go with.
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It's just something everybody liked.
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It stuck out, everybody loved it and we just everybody said once it all happened it was going to be the purple deuce coming out of the Vanity Race garage every car that we had.
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Yeah, and it just was so fitting that that's what you did, for sure and then little Jesse, you changed your number as well oh yeah, I originally was going to change it anyways this year.
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It was going to be kind of a thing I was going to do.
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I was going to drop down to 19, just because it was kind of, you know, the 38 divided by 2, 19.
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And I thought it was going to be cool to roll with it.
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But then obviously change of plans, so yeah, I kind of had just come up with that one on my lunch break, I believe one day, and sent it to matt elsie to get it all made up and kind of dabbled back and forth with the design, and then finally I kind of liked it.
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So we stuck with it and then of course we had to go with the flung crazy purple.
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So yeah, yeah I thought it would really look good, really really good really good looking cars, for sure, both of them, you know they are.
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So I'm talking about your car.
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Your dad's car is different, but it's also very good looking car.
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So for those who maybe don't know about adam, let's just share a little bit about don't know about Adam.
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Let's just share a little bit about.
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You know why you're paying so much tribute to him?
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Because he was a well-known racer.
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He was known near and far and he was a great race car driver.
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So, jesse Senior, why don't we start with you what you know?
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Tell me a little bit about Adam and his history with racing.
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Well, his history with racing.
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As everybody knows, I mean as it knows us Adam goes by Jeff Gordon at our race shop.
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He shows up on Saturday, puts on a helmet and goes, drive the wheels off the car me, my dad and whoever else is the shop.
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We, we do all the work on the cars.
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Pretty much they'll show up and hand a wrench or tool.
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But other than that adam was jeff gordon.
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We call him.
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Every time he pulled in.
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He'd show up in the shop at three o'clock on a saturday and ask if he was ready to go.
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But that that's how he was.
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But I mean he could drive a car.
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Everybody loved him.
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He was a stand-up guy.
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He got along with everybody.
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He was was just somebody that you know very, very kid-friendly Great guy.
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I loved him.
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I just don't know.
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Well, I know you did, Not just because he was your brother, but because of the person that he was.
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I know that you did love him and he just.
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You know you could go to galesburg on any weekend and and think for sure, one of those van avery guys is going to be near the front or at the front, and adam was one of those that was at the front quite a lot yeah, like my dad always said, he was one of the luckiest, luckiest drivers out there.
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He I don't know what it is.
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I mean one night we went green down the back stretch at the green flag and he went three wide and passed half the field with no problem.
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I tried it one night.
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I blew a tire.
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I just ain't as lucky as he was when he drove Big shows.
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He always won big shows.
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I've never won a big show.
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I always end up breaking or something.
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But he's got the luck on his side or something.
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I don't know what it was.
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I have to laugh about the Jeff Gordon thing because, um, you know, there's not, there's, there's not a lot of guys that race that don't work on their cars.
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Really, most of them do.
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But every so often, you know, I come across somebody and I I interview mostly women and there's a lot of them that do work on their cars.
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But, um, you know, and I interview mostly women and there's a lot of them that do work on their cars, but you know the fact that he just showed up and he knew you were going to have his car ready for him, didn't he?
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He didn't question that at all.
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No, he'd come down at 3 o'clock Half the time.
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He'd forget his stuff at home and have to go back home and we'd all have to wait for him down here before we go to the racetrack.
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He never had nothing ready.
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He was always running late Anytime anybody's late.
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Now we just say we're running on Adam's time.
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It's how we all do it around here.
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Yeah, yeah, and as hard as it is to lose somebody you know I lost my son, I get it.
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I get how hard that is and you go to the racetrack and you turn around and you think you're seeing I mean I've had that happen and then you look again and so I understand that maybe more so than some about how hard it is to go to the racetrack after you've lost somebody that you spent so much time with at the racetrack.
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Yeah, but the fact that you're there and you're, you're continuing on, you're showing your love and support of him even though he's gone, says a lot about you and your family for sure.
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So, uh, little jesse, tell me about you and your relationship with Adam.
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Oh, boy, I don't know.
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I think growing up he was of course always Uncle Adam and everything.
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But I think he was I was oldest.
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I never really had a bigger brother.
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I think he kind of took that role quite a bit.
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You know, he took me always to do the cool things, always bought me the cool presents on my birthday and everything.
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So that was always cool.
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But racing it was uh, I don't know, dad was more of a move get out of the way I'll, I'll just do it myself.
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Or you know he doesn't.
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He's more of a just kind of show me by failure than anything adam would just.
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You know, he kind of just shot it to me straight like hey, kid you gotta, you gotta do it like this, you know.
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So, uh, he was big, big in that part.
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I lived with him for quite a bit, so I got really close with him and everything.
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But uh, yeah, you know, yeah yeah, it's, it's hard.
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I know it's hard to talk about him too, some some.
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But you know, sometimes when it's not the dad, it's easier to teach the kid.
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Kids don't always think the parents know anything, even if it's about racing, and so for adam to be able to share and teach you was probably easier, because you know parents can't always be the teacher in that respect, right, jesse?
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Yeah, they don't think we, they don't think the parents know anything.
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So you know, that's how that goes, for sure so yeah, tell me now about the race this weekend.
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Um, tell me when it is, where it is, what you know about it and all the things, because I want a lot of people to come and show support this weekend at galesburg for that race we're having a memorial race for adam.
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For it everybody always says it's about the twos.
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It's for 2222 to win and then schneider's long carous threw in a thousand dollars for a mystery spot.
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It's probably drawn at the end of the night.
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Um, galesburg, it's something that we've always wanted to do.
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We're doing it.
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We had my dad do it all together.
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He tried to do it a different way and get lap sponsors and stuff.
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It just came up so quick and we haven't had time to do much.
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But my dad's got a trophy everything done he had made for it.
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Um, I got, I got a plan going.
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I'm gonna do something for his two kids there saturday night and see how that goes, and autograph night too.
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So yeah, hoping it goes good yeah, yeah, I wanted to mention this autograph night as well, and so that you know that always brings out a bigger crowd, you know for sure.
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And and the weather's looking beautiful in michigan for this weekend in the 70s and, and nice weather, which is something we haven't had a lot of this summer, so, um, it should be a really good crowd for sure.
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You know how.
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How have the other racers at Galesburg you know reached out to you, or whatever?