Holley Spake: Fried Chicken, Hairless Cats, And Full Throttle

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Meet Holly Spake

Melinda Russell 1:28

Hello everyone. This is Melinda Russell with the Women's Motorsports Network podcast. And my guest today is Holly Spake. And Holly, I want to welcome you to the show. And uh what we always do first, we want to hear a little bit about who is Holly Spake.

SPEAKER_04 1:45

Well, first off, thank you for having me. Um, I am a 13-year-old micro sprint race car driver out of Southeast Texas. Um, I've been racing for eight years now. Started out in go-karts and just been kicking ever since.

Melinda Russell 2:04

Okay, awesome. Love that.

SPEAKER_04 2:06

Do you have any siblings?

Melinda Russell 2:08

I have one older sister and she's 15. Okay, and how about pets? Are you are you an animal lover? Um, I have some chickens and two hairless cats. Hairless cats. Now, what is the attraction to a hairless cat? No shedding, I suppose.

SPEAKER_04 2:27

Yeah, like all most of my family has allergies, so that was our main attraction.

Melinda Russell 2:33

Okay, all right. Well, good good idea then to go hairless, and you can still have a pet. So that that's works great. I have a little shihtzu, he weighs about 15 pounds, and his name is Crew, as in Pit Crew, and so uh I love I love my dog, but he uh he doesn't shed either, so that's the best part about that. I'm not picking up dog hair everywhere.

SPEAKER_04 2:58

So I have one female and her name is Peaches, and then I have one male and his name is Zeus.

Melinda Russell 3:05

Oh, cool. I like those names. Thank you.

How She Started Racing

Melinda Russell 3:08

So, Holly, how did you get involved in motorsports? You said you've been racing for eight years already. Who's who introduced you to the sport of racing?

SPEAKER_04 3:18

Um, my dad started out when he was like a teenager in high school. He used to love to go to our local dirt track and watch, and he wanted to have like some sons to race, but he ended up having daughters. And my mom was like, Well, that's fine, we can still put her in racing. And it originally started out with my older sister, but she's not racing anymore. And we both started out on go-karts, and the first time I ever got on the racetrack in a go-kart, I went full throttle the wrong way around the track. Oh, it there wasn't many, there was probably only like two or three other people with me every night in go-karts. Um, but now it's grown more popular, so there's probably like a pack of ten. And um once I was ready, I moved up to junior sprints. Um, the first my first year in junior sprints was pretty reckless. Uh, I was very crazy. Um, but I learned and I feel like I pretty much dominated the track. And once we were ready, uh, we moved to restrictors where we are now. First year was pretty slow, but we've been kicking it up. Got first win of the season.

Melinda Russell 4:37

So you're having a good year so far. How long ago did you start racing this year?

SPEAKER_04 4:42

Um I think we started in like early May.

Melinda Russell 4:47

Yeah, okay. So you're at the beginning of your season for this year.

SPEAKER_04 4:52

Yes.

Melinda Russell 4:52

Yeah, and you had your first win already?

SPEAKER_04 4:55

Yes, the very first race of the season I won it.

Melinda Russell 4:58

That's awesome. That's a good way to start the year, isn't it? For sure. Yes. So, Holly, um, do you race at the same track or do you travel?

SPEAKER_04 5:10

Um, I mainly stay at my home track Golf Coast Speedway, but we do travel to other tracks, or I don't know if that we used to travel to 105, but I'm not sure they'd have our class anymore because it wasn't very popular because it's a really big track. And we always go to the Tulsa Shootout every year. And we hope to travel up to like port and sweet springs and stuff like that this year. So it's we're getting good.

Melinda Russell 5:38

It's it's fun to travel to different tracks just to kind of see how competition is, and every track is different, obviously. But um, if you're running for points, and that makes it hard. So, do you run for points or would you rather travel?

SPEAKER_04 5:54

Um, right now we're running for points because we're fifth in standing, but we want to start traveling.

Melinda Russell 6:03

Yeah. So you have to kind of make a decision because normally they all run on the same day or night and makes it hard, doesn't it, to to be able to do both. Yeah, for sure. So who's your main crew chief or people that help you with the car?

SPEAKER_04 6:18

Uh obviously my dad, he's been there from the start, but recently we've joined BSI racing team, and uh that's um Buddy Mullins and Weldon Beauford.

Melinda Russell 6:30

Okay, all right. And are there other girls or boys, either one, that are racing with that team?

SPEAKER_04 6:37

Um, yes. Um Ty Fulgum and Jude Algyre are frequents, but um, there's another girl that races with them named Audrey Slough. She's races at my home track with me, and me and her basically dominate the track.

Melinda Russell 6:51

Okay, I love hearing that. Um and so is she gonna does she run pretty much like if you're gonna run a certain track, she'll run the same track, you'll all do the same thing?

SPEAKER_04 7:02

Uh yeah, most of the time uh BSI is racing um like for point for championship points, like through like Tulsa and like all the tracks. So when they come down, we're always with them.

Melinda Russell 7:15

Okay, and how far away does she live from you? Is she close by? Um, about 45 minutes. Okay, so she's close, she's not halfway across the country. Yeah, that's good. So um dirt or asphalt? Uh I do dirt ovals. Okay. Have you ever ran asphalt? Uh I have not. Okay. Just curious whether you had a preference over one over the other. So you don't really know about asphalt, but you love dirt, it sounds like.

SPEAKER_04 7:48

Yes.

Melinda Russell 7:48

Yeah. What what's fun about dirt? Because don't you get real dirty and icky?

SPEAKER_04 7:55

Oh well, yes, you always get real dirty. Um, I think I just like it more. I don't know, because I guess I've never run asphalt, so I couldn't say which is better. But I started out in dirt and it's still there, so pretty much my favorite.

Melinda Russell 8:10

I love I I love watching dirt, and I don't really have any, I have one dirt track that's maybe an hour away. So I don't make make it to that track very often. But um mostly around me is asphalt, but I do love watching dirt. So when I get when I open flow racing, I look through all the things that are happening today, and I tend to choose something that's dirt related. So it's fun, it's fun to watch. Um so Holly, you've made transition through different, you know, types of cars. We'll call them cars that you race. Can you say that one's been a favorite, or sometimes each time you move that becomes your favorite? Have you had a favorite type?

SPEAKER_04 8:59

Um, I can definitely agree with what you just said. Um, when I first moved out to restrictors, I was like, I'm I hate this. I love juniors, I want to go back, but now I wouldn't want to go back to juniors. Restrictors are my favorite.

Melinda Russell 9:12

Yeah. Yeah. I think once you get used to it and you start having success, it changes how you feel about it for sure.

Race Day Routine And Superstitions

SPEAKER_03 9:19

Yeah.

Melinda Russell 9:19

Yeah. So um what's your typical day look like on race day? You know, from morning till is it Saturdays? Do you race? What what day of the week do you usually race? Uh Saturdays. Okay, so you get up on Saturday morning. What's your day look like?

SPEAKER_04 9:38

I usually wake up pretty early, um, get dressed, just chill, make sure the trailer's packed, and I'll usually take a nap at like noon and head to the track, get the car ready, make sure it's all ready, go to driver's meeting, and then just race and hang out with my friends.

Melinda Russell 9:58

Yeah. Um, so how far is it for you to drive to get to your track?

SPEAKER_04 10:05

It's about 20, 30 minutes. It's not too far.

Melinda Russell 10:08

Easy peasy, just around the corner, basically. Yeah. So that makes that part of it easy because I I interview people that go hours uh every weekend, you know, two, three hours to go to a track. And so you've got it easy, and I do too. I don't have to drive far to watch racing. So that that makes it more fun when you're not on the road half the time. So um, do you eat breakfast? Do you eat lunch? Do you eat after?

SPEAKER_04 10:36

Um, I usually eat lunch. My parents usually go to lunch, and I'll go with them. Kind of just depends. Most of the time we eat fried chicken, even though they say don't eat fried chicken on race days. Yeah. It's never affected me though.

Melinda Russell 10:50

And you know what? It's some of that's just old wives' tales or old superstitions. Whatever works for you is what you should do. So that's good. Um, a lot of girls don't want to eat at all till they're done racing, and that's a long day if you don't eat. So I'm glad to hear you're having lunch and and ready.

How Heats And Points Work

Melinda Russell 11:10

So do you run um heat races and then features, or how does your track run your racing at night?

SPEAKER_04 11:17

Um, we before the races start, we draw um our pill number and whatever that is, decides where we start in the heat race. But before the heat race, we have hot laps, which is three laps of about like five or six cars on the track just to fill the track out. And then we'll have heat races, which is I think up to eight cars per heat race. And um, however many people you pass, that's how many points you get. And the more points you have, the farther up you're starting in the future.

Melinda Russell 11:44

Okay, all right. So would you probably would rather start at the back then?

SPEAKER_04 11:51

Uh yes, in your heat race, you do want to start at the back.

Melinda Russell 11:55

Yeah. And so if you pick number one and you're the first car, that's kind of disappointing because now everybody's trying to pass you instead. But um, it probably evens out in the long run, doesn't it? You know, one day you're first, one day you're middle, one day you're in the back. So um, but once you get into the race, would you rather be in the front, in the middle, or the back?

SPEAKER_04 12:20

Um, I like to start the race in the front. I um if I end up in the middle though, I'll race my way to the front. It's no problem.

Melinda Russell 12:28

Yeah, okay. What's your favorite thing about driving your car?

SPEAKER_04 12:34

Oh, my favorite thing. Um, all the little girls, like the fans, there's so many of them. I think that's just so cool.

Melinda Russell 12:43

Yeah. So do you get a lot of little girls that come up to you like after the races and they'll see your car and meet you and get your autograph, that kind of thing?

SPEAKER_04 12:52

Uh yes. Um, my friend, I mean, my parents are friends with a lot of people, and their little girls will come up to me. I think it's pretty cool.

Melinda Russell 13:02

It is pretty cool. And you know what's fun about that, Holly, is you never know who you're gonna influence. And next thing you know, they'll be racing. And so that's kind of fun, you know, to be kind of the person they look up to for sure. Yeah, yeah, and little boys too, you know. Little boys a lot of times they'll have a girl that they follow or race or their sister or whatever, and and so um that's that's always fun. What was the hardest thing about going into the micro sprint?

SPEAKER_04 13:35

The hardest thing, um, learning the clutch, um, because in junior sprints we don't have one, and so learning to let the clutch out easy and like the order of the gears and stuff was a little bit of a struggle.

Melinda Russell 13:47

Yeah, but you've got the hang of it now, right?

SPEAKER_04 13:50

Yes, yeah.

Melinda Russell 13:52

So when you get your first car to drive on the street, do you want an automatic or one that shifts?

SPEAKER_04 13:59

I think I'd be fine with the standard, but I would prefer an automatic.

Melinda Russell 14:03

Yeah, okay. All right, just curious because sometimes it's fun to learn the shifting and then it's you know kind of makes you feel I don't know, it's just more fun to drive. But um, I'd go for an automatic every time for sure. Yeah. So um, how many girls would you say that you race against? Are there a fair number of girls or just pretty much you and your friend?

SPEAKER_04 14:29

Um there's usually about like three to four girls, including me, um, in like a pack of around 15 every night, the just a couple local girls.

Melinda Russell 14:41

Yeah. That's cool. That's a that's a pretty good average to have that many that that race.

Fans, Role Models, And Beating Boys

Melinda Russell 14:48

Did you have somebody as you were growing up? Uh, it could be a woman or a man that you kind of looked up to as far as you know, somebody that you really liked, how they raced.

SPEAKER_04 14:59

Uh, I look up to any of the girls like Kaylee Bryson. Um, she's really inspirational because she's gone really far in her racing career.

Melinda Russell 15:08

Yeah, she has. Yeah, she's she's a good one for you to follow for sure. And she does the Tulsa shootout, or she has. I don't know if she did last year, but she has, yeah. That's fun. Um, have you ever had a problem with a male, like a boy or a parent, treat you like you didn't belong on the racetrack?

SPEAKER_04 15:32

Um, not that I can recall, but I guarantee there's been boys that don't like that I'm on the racetrack with them.

Melinda Russell 15:39

Yeah. Because you're successful.

SPEAKER_04 15:43

Yes.

Melinda Russell 15:44

Yeah. Um, yeah, boys don't like getting beat by girls in any sport, much less, you know, racing, where it's kind of one-on-one. Um, I um I recently wrote some music. I didn't write the music, I wrote the words to some songs about girls in motorsports. And my friend used to always say, his daughter raced, and he always said, We're making boys cry. So I wrote a song, and some of the words in the song are making boys cry. And I just have to laugh every time I listen to it because um they do they they may not cry real tears, but they're not happy when the girls are passing them, that's for sure. Yeah.

TikTok And Being Visible In Racing

Melinda Russell 16:28

So um what do you think about uh a social media? You're just you know, you're the age where you're right in the middle of it all. Uh first tell me how do you use it? Like what do you use? Facebook, TikTok, what do you use, and how do you use it?

SPEAKER_04 16:45

I have a TikTok account, it's just Holly Spake, um, that I post a lot of racing content on. Um, but my parents also run a Facebook account for Spake Sisters Racing that just follows alongside me.

Melinda Russell 16:59

Yeah, that's I think that's how I found you. Somebody tagged somebody posted something and you were in the post, and that's that's how I found Spake Sisters Racing. So that's cool. Um, you post like where you're gonna be and how you did and pictures of your car, that kind of thing. Is that what they post? Uh yes, my parents post a lot of that. Okay, and then what do you post on TikTok? Um, just like little like edits of my car and stuff. Okay. Do you use like does anybody tape you when you're racing and you show little little you know, slivers of you actually racing on TikTok? Yeah, yeah. I think that's a great platform for that kind of thing because it can be very short, but it's impressive, and it's you know, other kids, parents, whoever see that and they think, wow, that looks like fun. And she's a 13-year-old girl or she's an eight-year-old girl, you know, my kid could do that, and I think it's encouraging, you know, to other kids that like, oh, if she can do that, maybe I should try it. So I love I love TikTok for that reason. It can also be addicting, and I try to stay off of it as much as possible because you start to scroll and you go down the rabbit hole, so uh as they say.

SPEAKER_04 18:24

So um I have lots of videos about being a female in a male industry, and most of them have like comments of people being like encouraging about like just being the girl and just being all the voice.

Melinda Russell 18:39

Yeah, that's great. I love hearing that. Um, keep keep that up because it's gotten so much better since I started doing this. Um, but it's it's not perfect, nothing's perfect. But I like seeing that the girls are way more accepted, and and really it's you're more like just a racer, you're not a girl racer. You know what I'm saying? You're just a racer, just like the boys are racers. They don't say, Oh, that's a boy racer, but they do say, Oh, that's a girl racer, right? Yeah, so let's let's drop that and just say Holly is a race car driver, period. End of discussion. Yeah, yeah, for sure. So, Holly, would you recommend to a little girl or even a little boy that motorsports is a good sport to be involved in? And if so, why?

SPEAKER_04 19:35

Um, I would definitely recommend it. I think it shaped me as a person and like the sportsmanship I have today. Um, it is pretty expensive, so you gotta be prepared for that. But yeah, I definitely recommend it.

Melinda Russell 19:49

Yeah. There's a lot of things I think that you learn from being involved in motorsports or any sport, but especially motor sports, that are life lessons is what I call them. Confidence, patience, all kinds of things like that that you learn in motorsports, how to talk how to talk, you know, to people, and that kind of thing. And and a lot of times if you were in a on a basketball team or a softball team, you might not learn all those, all those life lessons. Yeah, yeah, for

Big Goals And Finding Sponsors

Melinda Russell 20:24

sure. So um, what are some things that you look forward to as far as like you're 13? What's uh what's gonna be the next steps for you?

SPEAKER_04 20:36

Um, I really want to make it to the Kubota High Limit um series. Those are four ten sprint cars. Um, there's not very many girls that do it because most um quit because of like kids and like family and stuff, but I would love to make it up there.

Melinda Russell 20:54

So my friend Lori, uh volun I don't know, I don't know if she gets paid or she's a volunteer. I think she volunteers with a cut with Racers for Christ. Yes, and so she's the she does the prayers at night, and so uh she's a good friend of mine, and then her husband is on the like EMS team, and so they travel all over with high limit racing, which I'm so jealous of. That just sounds like so much fun. And I'm actually gonna go to I think it's Quincy, Michigan, is where they're gonna be in a week or so, and actually get to watch them in person because I watch them on flow, so I'm excited about that. That's gonna be fun. So, yes, there's no girls racing right now in the High Limit series, at least not that I've seen on Flow this year. So, Holly, you need to to get busy and get yourself up there because that would be so much fun.

SPEAKER_04 21:51

Yeah, yeah, we need tons of sponsors, so I gotta get my name out there.

Melinda Russell 21:56

Exactly. So, do you have sponsors now that you would like to? Mention or is it is it mom and dad? Because it's hard.

SPEAKER_04 22:04

Um, um, my main sponsor is Pipeline MD. Um, I also have other sponsors, southern truck sales, and southern truck repair, turbo NDT, dusting room veterinarian services, um, C4 branding, space cakes, voodoo, BSI, um, paste chassis south. I think that's about it.

Melinda Russell 22:25

Well, that's quite a few. So spakes cakes. Is that your mom? Yes. Oh, that sounds fun. So she bakes and decorates cakes.

SPEAKER_04 22:36

Yeah, she does cheesecakes, cakes, cupcakes. She does a lot.

Melinda Russell 22:41

Wow, that sounds like a she must love to bake or she wouldn't be doing that. And that's a talent in itself, is to be able to do that and and you know, decorate them so that they look delicious and everybody wants to to eat them. So good for her. That's fun.

Handling Bad Nights And Chasing Points

Melinda Russell 23:00

Um so when you have a bad night on the track, which we all do, it's not every day is not perfect or successful. How do you handle when things don't go very well?

SPEAKER_04 23:14

Um, I wish I'd talk to my dad and like Buddy and Weldon to see what we could have done better to help um prevent that next time if it happens again, or like just reflect on it.

Melinda Russell 23:26

Yeah. And by racing at the same track, you know, a lot, it's probably helpful in that if you you're you went high and they said, well, you should have probably done this and gone low or whatever. That's that's helpful to be able to sit down and talk about it for sure. Yeah. So what's your goal for this year as far as your racing?

SPEAKER_04 23:49

Um, I want to make it to some tracks in Oklahoma. Um, but I would love to also win um the points championship at my local track.

Melinda Russell 23:59

Yeah, absolutely. Now, you said did you say you're fifth right now? Yes. Okay, so are they all boys in front of you ahead of you?

SPEAKER_04 24:11

Um, there's one girl. I think she's in third, but she's like five points ahead.

Melinda Russell 24:18

Okay, so not that much.

SPEAKER_04 24:20

Yeah.

Melinda Russell 24:21

Yeah. So you could easily get to the front of the points, Race. Um when you get on the track, and do you ever think about the points? Or do you just get on the track and just try to pass and do the best you can? Is it ever in the back of your mind or not?

SPEAKER_04 24:40

I don't think points is, but definitely where I finish is like um obviously you get more points the higher you finish. So I'm thinking let's get as many spots passed as we can and finish as high as we can.

Melinda Russell 24:53

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_04 24:55

How many race do you race every Saturday night? Uh I race every other Saturday, but recently a lot of the races have been getting rained out. So I haven't raced in well, I raced last weekend, but the race before that I was like three weeks.

Melinda Russell 25:11

Yeah, that's rough when it's raining. I know. Um looking out my window here, uh, we had be beautiful weather yesterday, but it was kind of chilly. I live in Michigan, but um today and tomorrow it's supposed to rain, and there's all kinds of races around me, supposed to happen. So I, you know, I don't know if they're gonna get those in, but but the weather can be a disappointment when you've looked forward to racing all week and then it rains on race day. So that makes it tough. Definitely, yeah, for

Tulsa Shootout And Racing Community

Melinda Russell 25:42

sure. And then does your race season go like to October, November sometime? Because in Texas, you should be able to race a long time.

SPEAKER_04 25:51

I think we end sometime in like November, and then we'll have a couple practices before the Tulsa shootout, and then a lot of people um from my track travel up there every year.

Melinda Russell 26:03

Yeah, because from where you live to Tulsa's probably not all that far, like from Kalamazoo, Michigan, where I live to Tulsa would be a little bit of a hike to get there, but um probably not too awfully far for you to go, is it? It's about nine hours. Oh, more than I thought. Okay, yeah, it's a waste, but it's worth going because you're there for several days.

SPEAKER_04 26:27

Yeah, full week.

Melinda Russell 26:28

Yeah, a whole week, yeah. Yeah, that's fun. What's your favorite thing about going there?

SPEAKER_04 26:35

Um, the community is really fun. Like all the kids are always having fun. Like there's um a section of the stands called the rowdy stands, and it's like a bunch of kids, and they have all signs and stuff, and I think that's super cool.

Melinda Russell 26:47

Yeah, it is cool. So, have you met other girls that race at the Tulsa shootout that you don't normally race against?

SPEAKER_04 26:57

Um, I've met um Haley Degan before. Um, I think that's about it.

Melinda Russell 27:04

Okay. So um I've interviewed some girls that race there, so I'll have to send you their names, and then you'll have to reach out to them and get get acquainted before you get to the Tulsa shootout, and then you'll have some new friends there. So there's there's quite a number of young girls that race there, which is always fun for me to interview them for sure. So, Holly, is there anything that you want to share about yourself or your racing that I haven't asked you about?

SPEAKER_04 27:36

I don't think so.

Melinda Russell 27:38

No, we've kind of covered it all. Yeah, so you don't race tonight, but hopefully next Saturday, right? Yes, yeah, okay, that's great. And so um, if somebody wanted to find out where you were racing, they would go to your spake sisters Facebook page, I assume. Yes, yeah, okay, so so everybody that's listening, it's S-P-A-K-E, Spake Sisters, and uh you'll find them on Facebook and you'll find Holly Spake on TikTok, which is also fun. Um what is the what is the one thing if you could give some advice or or say to the people that are listening, either about yourself or advice for

Confidence Advice And Family Support

Melinda Russell 28:25

others? Do you have one thing that you could share?

SPEAKER_04 28:28

Um, don't be scared, honestly, because if you get scared, you're gonna slow down. So just be confident.

Melinda Russell 28:35

Yeah. And don't let anybody tell you you can't do it.

SPEAKER_04 28:40

Yeah, right.

Melinda Russell 28:41

Sounds like you have good encouragement from your family.

SPEAKER_04 28:45

Yes, always.

Melinda Russell 28:46

Yeah, that's good. Does your sister uh encourage you? Does she still like racing? She just doesn't want to be in the races.

SPEAKER_04 28:56

Um, I think she still enjoys it. Um, she comes to um a couple of my races, most of them. Um, and she's always there, like after races, she'll always give me a big hug and stuff.

Melinda Russell 29:08

Yeah. So she's a supporter too, right? Yes. Yeah, that's good. How about grandparents? Do you have grandparents that um that come and watch you race?

SPEAKER_04 29:19

Um, my Mimi and Papa come every single one of my races and watch.

Melinda Russell 29:25

Yeah, that would be me when my granddaughters raced. I didn't hardly miss a race. And now they're not racing either one. They're a little older. They're one of them's getting married next month, and one of them's in college and works, and so sometimes you know you have to kind of do those things instead of being on the racetrack every week. But they still love racing, that's for sure. So it's it gets in your blood, and uh it's hard to get it out, isn't it? Definitely, yeah, for sure. Well, Holly, I've enjoyed meeting you today and talking with you. Is there anything at all that we should talk about before we uh hang up today? I think we've covered all the bases. Okay, well, that's good. Well, thanks again for being on. I want you to make sure that you tag Women's Motorsports Network when you post things so that I can keep easier track of what you're doing because it's hard to remember everybody to follow. But if you tag me that way, I'll know what you're doing and I can watch and and celebrate you when you win those races.

SPEAKER_04 30:30

Definitely. I'll make sure to keep you updated.

Melinda Russell 30:33

That would be great. Well, thanks again, and I hope you have a good uh weekend and good luck this year. Thank you for having me.

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SPEAKER_03 31:30

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