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Welcome to the Women's Motorsports Network Podcast, the show that puts the spotlight on the incredible women who fuel the world of motorsports.
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From drivers to crew members, engineers to fans, and everyone in between, we're here to celebrate the trailbizers, dreamers, and doers shaping the sport we love.
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Each episode, we share inspiring stories of females of all ages from every corner of the motorsports universe, past, present, and future.
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It's a journey through the seasons of life filled with heartfelt moments, laughter, and a whole lot of horsepower.
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So whether you're a lifelong fan, a racer yourself, or simply curious about the extraordinary women behind the wheel, settle in, relax, and enjoy a fun and uplifting ride with us.
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This is the Women's Motorsports Network Podcast, connecting and celebrating women in motorsports one story at a time.
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Let's hit the track.
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Hello, everyone.
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This is Melinda Russell with the Women's Motorsports Network podcast.
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And Fallon Tucker is my guest today.
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And so, Fallon, I want to welcome you to the show.
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And first of all, I love your name because it's different.
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And mine used to be different.
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You never heard Melinda very much, but now you hear it more and more.
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And especially, you know, Melinda uh Gates.
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You know, that was kind of a famous Melinda.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But anyway, and so welcome to the show.
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And would you start by just sharing a little bit about yourself?
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Yes, thank you so much for letting me be here.
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I also I will say that my married name is Fallon Constantino, but I still haven't got my my stuff changed.
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So I'm working on that.
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I am a mom, a wife, and a woman in motorsports.
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I have a background, I several different degrees.
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Um I have a background in finance, public health, and motorsports management.
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So a little combination of a few things.
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And now I work as a part-time employee, I suppose you'd say, with MSA, and I travel with all of their network and I contract here and there with other racing organizations and different.
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Oh, I'm so sorry.
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It's okay.
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And different racing venues when they have different series come to town.
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That's exciting.
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And so I uh it's interesting.
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You said public health, promoter sports management and finance.
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So you could actually, Fallon, you could do the books, be on the medical crew, you know, the medical team at the race, and you know, so many things, you've got so many talents behind you.
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So tell me, what do you do for MSA and how did you get how did you get there to that job?
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It sounds like you've had a lot of interesting jobs along the way.
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Tell me about your journey.
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Oh man, so there's uh so many.
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I had no idea what I wanted to do with my life.
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I guess that's a lot of people, but I decided to take the advice and wisdom of others.
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And, you know, I was enrolled in school, in college right after high school, but I didn't get into, I didn't really apply to a whole bunch of colleges because I had no idea what I wanted to do.
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So I was kind of behind, I guess you could say, in that category.
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So I registered with the local community college and I started working at the local animal hospital, and that's kind of worked there for a little bit.
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And then on like on and off again, like different, you know, weekend jobs and different race jobs along the way.
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Then I got worked for in the office for a construction company, then uh worked in the office for another construction company, and then I went on, once I finished my finance degree, I went and worked for a wealth management firm.
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And all the different jobs that I've had along the way have all taught me something for sure.
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I've learned, you know, different pieces from here, this from this person, this from that person, from the from the CEO to the janitor.
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Sincerely, I I don't mean that as cliche as it sounds, but I I learned little bits and of here and there from every person that I've worked with and every job that I've worked at.
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But yeah.
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Yeah, and you know, when you say you learned also from the janitor, you know, there's that's that's something that you know nobody can take away from you, first of all, all those things that you learned from those people.
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But you know, I've I've often heard it said about people that, you know, some people that they, you know, they treat everybody the same, from the janitor to the president.
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And number one, that's important because every job is important.
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Yes.
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And so there's probably so many things you learned all along that way.
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And and yeah, I I can't even imagine uh, you know, trying to remember everything that came to came to you there, but it all at one point kind of kind of comes back to you, doesn't it?
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When you're you're doing a job that you didn't think you would ever be in, and something will remind you that of something that someone said that really pertains to that job.
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And so it's a culmination of everything that you've learned, starting from when you were a little girl.
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Yes.
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And and that's true of so many of us.
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And you know, I think back to some of the jobs I had, and I never thought I'd be doing this.
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Having a podcast, there was no such thing as a podcast back in the day, right?
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So we have to be open, I guess, is what I'm trying to get to.
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We have to be open to to the people around us and the things that they are going through and the things they're saying and and what we can learn from them because there's so much from everybody.
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And you make valid points in the sense of like, if you thought that I was a, you know, well, there was a piece of me as a little girl that loved racing, but I never thought I'd be doing anything that I'm doing right now that just wasn't in the forecast for me.
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That's not what any advisor told me.
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That's not anything that anybody in my family's ever done.
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So, you know, there was no kind of foot in the door or any kind of you know long-term advice.
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And on top of that, being a female was just not even heard of.
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So no.
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So, how did you get to IMSA?
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What what led you there?
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To IMSA specifically?
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Well, or motorsports, yeah.
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I I don't know your whole story.
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You tell us how did you get to to where you are today?
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So they're a family friend of ours, Paul Farrell, rest in peace, amazing human.
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He and my dad used to work together, and I believe the story was that they started, or Paul was already working for this what you call the local event or a club series, CCS motorcycle racing.
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And my dad went with him just, you know, as friends, wanting to, you know, try something different, see what was going on, and he ended up liking it.
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And then Paul suggested to him, like, hey, maybe this is something that you and your daughter could like do together, uh, hang out together.
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So he brought me.
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I remember being put in the back of a white pickup truck, can't remember what kind of pickup truck it was, but it's Carolina Motorsports Park on a sunny day, and then the next day it rained.
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So they had this like enclosed trailer, and I'm standing in the back of it with like a poncho on, and I'm manually scoring at the start-finish line as the motorcycles go by.
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This was before transponders um any kind of electronic timing and scoring systems, especially on the club level for anything.
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And I remember just being so excited, like, oh my god, this is awesome.
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At the end of the weekend, the owner came out, Kevin Elliott, and asked me how many races I could be at.
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I remember he was a very large, intimidating man, so I was quite nervous.
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I was this little tiny, like I, you know, it was in like night how 11, 12 years old or somewhere around there.
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And I was very like, oh my gosh, and scared of him.
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And then he asked me how many races I could be at.
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I remember looking at my dad, being like, you tell me.
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He's like, Yeah, talk to your grandparents, like, you know, just the whole thing and figure it all out and kind of history from there.
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I, of course, as a kid, I wanted to be out on the corners with the flags.
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You know, that's what all the kids, oh my gosh, that's so much fun.
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So I'm thinking that's so much fun.
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Jennifer Reese brings me out onto the corners.
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They would not let me be out there only for practice.
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Practice, no, not for qualifying or racing.
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I had to be scoring, but I tried so hard.
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And then from there, I did a little bit of registration for the motorcycles.
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And I remember one day, Alan Muse.
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I went up, I went up to race control to pick up, somebody asked me to get a piece of paper or bring Alan a piece of paper from registration, something.
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I don't remember what it was for exactly, but some for some reason I'm going up to race control.
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And Alan Muse is there, and amazing human as well.
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He says, if there was one thing that you could learn at the racetrack, what would it be?
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And I'm like, oh man, thinking to myself, it's like a lot of action going on up there.
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And I said, honestly, I'd love to know what you're doing up here out of pure curiosity because there was a lot going on, not because I genuinely wanted to learn at the time.
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Like, I love learning, but you know, as a kid, I'm not trying to do too much.
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The next thing I know was it wasn't a kid at that point.
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At that point, you know, years had passed.
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I was like 23, 24, I guess.
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But to me, it's still a kid.
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Next thing I know, I'm not out on the start-finish stand, I'm not allowed to registration, which is crazy by the way, because for years and years they wouldn't let me do anything else.
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Excuse me.
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And so next thing I know, I'm in race control training with Alan, and it just kind of snowballed from there.
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Next weekend, I end up being in New Jersey, Motorsports Park, because they didn't have anybody for raise control that weekend, and then there I go.
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Wow.
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And you know, I I listen to a lot of podcasts, Alan, and and I was just listening to one yesterday evening, and and again, they talk about how had it not been for this, this wouldn't have happened.
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Had it not been for this, this would not have happened.
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So had you not taken that piece of paper up there, you might still be scoring.
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I am a firm believer that everything happens for a reason, that there is nothing is coincidence.
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So whatever, whatever the reason for God, the universe, my higher self, whatever they knew.
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So the plan, yeah.
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And so I just roll with it.
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And then from there, I was traveling around with the club series.
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And again, like I said, I was working a lot with New Jersey Motorsports Park.
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They were new to the scene.
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I was helping with like the corner marshaling, and I remember this guy that used to manage there.
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He used to, or I'm not really totally sure what his exact title was, but he was basically like the track manager when I was there, and he would just be standing in the back of this room of race control when I'm sitting there doing in motorcycle racing.
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It's typically one, maybe two people in race control handling all the radios.
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It's a lot, um, especially again on the club level.
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So he would just be in the back and I'm doing all this stuff.
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The announcers in the next room, I can see him because it's glass, and you know, we're doing hand signals to each other, communicating to each other, keeping everything on pace, you know how it goes.
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But he's just back there like watching, and I'm thinking, like, what are you doing?
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Like, what are you doing?
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Whatever.
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Next thing I know, I'm getting, you know, emails or calls about, you know, do you want to come and check out the MSA race control?
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And at the time I was very dedicated to what I was doing, and I I kind of shrugged him off a few times, not really, you know, knowing.
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But again, he came one door when I finally was done with motorcycles for you know, you know, doors closing, and it was just like clockwork.
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Here he comes again.
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Hey, do you want to come take a look at EMSA race control?
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And at that point I said yes.
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I'm interested.
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And what year was that?
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How long ago was that?
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That was in 2019.
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So I first I went to observe race control with EMSA in 2019 in Cring at the Encore race.
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Okay, yeah.
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And you fell in love with it?
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Instantly, instantly.
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I as soon as I walked into race control, I said, Oh my god, they've got one person for each job, and it's 12 times as more complex per thing, and it's like the nucleus of the brand.
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I was just it was so exciting.
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I am a complete nerd.
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So it was exciting for me.
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It was like a whole new set of things to learn and new tools, and it was really exciting.
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Yeah, that's very exciting.
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So tell me, what does the race control safety dispatcher?
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Is that your title?
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Uh uh yes.
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Okay.
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So tell me what is your job and what are the duties of of that?
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Like if you know, at the IMSA race, what are all the things you have to do?
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Okay, so we will um we will come from a standpoint of from an IMSA standpoint.
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The for me, my best, I guess the way to say my best understanding, the way I operate is we have race control set up, and you've got people that are talking, someone who's talking to the teams, somebody's talking to the corner marshals, somebody who's IMing the teams and speaking to them via chat, person who's doing all of the logging of every incident, the time stamping everything.
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The person that's doing the data is also doing the the IMing and chatting with the teams, and they're right between they're right next to the race director who's giving them a lot of direction.
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Uh, you've got a replay system going on, and you've got your driver advisors who are reviewing different things for penalties and different, you know, all kinds of stuff they're reviewing, and there's just a lot going on.
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And then you've got me over here, and when there's an accident or debris on the racetrack, anything like that, you see the medical team that'll come out, you'll see the AMR trucks.
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We have Ford Raptors this year, super exciting, super exciting.
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They're they're really nice.
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I'm sure they are.
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Thank you, board.
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So when you see them come out, and then you see the different wreckers and rollbacks and things like like that, and the fire trucks, those are the people that I'm speaking to on the ground.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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So when you see an accident happen, I know you like on TV, you see the safety crew, you know, they're the first ones there.
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Then are they the ones you're talking to, and they're saying, Fallon, we need an ambulance, Fallon, we need this, Fallon, we need that.
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And then you contact those people and get them out on the track.
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Is that kind of how it works?
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So that is where I will clarify when we're speaking about like from the IMSA perspective versus say like an FIA F a different FIA sanctioned event like uh Formula One.
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Okay.
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So for MSA, I'm getting a lot of information from race control.
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I already know what the race director wants to do.
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He's already told me what his what the goal is.
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But the best part about MSA is the autonomy for me to know what my guidelines are, what my rules are, but I'm allowed to work within this sphere of getting the job done.
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MSA allows my experience, expertise, the way that my brain works, the way that my guys respond to me, and allow me that flexibility and autonomy.
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And it's wonderful.
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Not that other organizations are not, I just that one difference.
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And if I need help, or if I feel like I'm over my head, or I have questions, or I'm stuck.
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There are so many resources in race control and on the ground.
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I it it is a oh man.
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It's a team that you know everybody has your back, don't they?
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Absolutely.
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I like to say that nobody in that room is going or on the ground is going to let another person fail.
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Right.
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Period, period.
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So I have a lot of resources, a lot of tools.
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And then if you're gonna come from a FI, like let's say it's a WEC saying, like when WEC is in town at Coda, and Coda is the actual sanctioning body for this, and not an ESA per se.
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I have to, I don't want to say have to, but the back row or the FIA WEC officials, they are giving me instructions on what they want done and how they want it done.
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And then I have to go on their command.
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Okay, which is fine.
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Every I and I understand why they have their procedures and because every every series is a little bit different.
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Um, and especially when you have international series that go from European to the United States, right.
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Road courses in Europe, they require a lot of the the high lifts and the intervention marshals who are on foot, whereas with the road courses, you don't really have that.
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So it's just a lot of different dynamics and a lot of different inputs.
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So did it take you a long time to kind of figure out, you know, like when they're there, the things they want and how to get them what they want.
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I mean, or was it all does it all basically kind of make sense and you understand, or or did it take a little time to kind of figure all that out?
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I I know that you want the question, the answer to be black and white, but it's so gray here because there's so much that just naturally hits because of the decades of racing experience.
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And I understand flag condition, I understand needing to go back to green, I understand what not necessarily what the race director is thinking, but the process that they're going through to get things back to green.
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I understand from a driver management perspective, like what they're needing, but that there's just so many different things, but that doesn't mean that I but that I know everything right away.
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I relied a lot on the guys and girls on the ground to tell me what they need.
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I think it's super important that when the people who are actually doing the physical work feel empowered and supported and engaged and locked in with their dispatcher, it's just a natural flow.
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They won't let me fail.
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So, and then over time, which not you know, years per se, but maybe like a year, two years, and it always, you know, you're always growing, you're always learning new things.
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Literally just learned something at something the other day that I've been working with these guys for five years on, and it was like, oh, this could make this so much easier in a communication.
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Let's let's try this.
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And yeah.
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But until you're but until you're in the middle of it and and working in it, you wouldn't know that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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You have to experience it and go through it.
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And then then your brain starts to work, and it's thinking, now what if we did it this way?
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It might be better.
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And so yeah, it makes sense that that would happen.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And you have different, you have different crews all around the United States.
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So our crew with MSA and the AMR team, whether it's with EMSA, NASCAR, MDCAR, they all have their own safety team that travel around and they're all the same people.
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However, when you have at your different venues, let's say Watkins Glenn versus Coda versus a street course like Long Beach, all the people who are the local resources, they're local resources.
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They don't travel around.
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Okay.
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For the exceptions of steps, steps wrecker and rollback service.
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We do have contracts with NASCAR through them and some through MSA.
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And they do travel to some of the stuff, just not everything.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Because consistency obviously makes it go smoother.
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And so the more you can do that, the better.