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Hello everyone.
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This is Melinda Russell with the Women's Motorsports Network podcast, and my guest today is Ashley Winslet, and Ashley comes to us from Texas, but I'm going to let her tell you more about herself.
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So, ashley, welcome to the show.
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And we always start with a little bit about yourself.
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So share your family, your pets, where you work, all those good things, so we can get to know you better.
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Yeah, my name is Ashley Winslet.
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I live in Dallas, texas.
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I've been here for about six, seven years now.
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I have a dog Her name is Roxy and then my parents and my older brother live outside of Austin where we grew up.
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We grew up in Pflugerville, texas.
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My day job is I'm an assistant manager at the Dallas Zoo, so I work with elephants and a bunch of hoofstock, so that is my day job.
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Wow, that's interesting.
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I haven't ever had anybody that worked at the zoo, so you're my first.
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So that's pretty cool.
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We'll have to talk about that in a little bit.
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So very, very cool.
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So, ashley, tell me how a pretty thing like you in Dallas, texas, got interested in motorsports.
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So I first started truly racing in 2016, but I first got involved.
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My mom likes to say my first race was before I was born.
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It was when she was pregnant with me.
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Um, so I've been around it since I was born, um.
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We first started actually going to races, um, just as spectators, um.
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And then we kind of started hanging around two boats the War Party, tabagaw Flat and then Flat Crazy.
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Then we just kind of started getting integrated into War Party.
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We truly became crew members and then we just followed them around mainly Texas and Oklahoma, and then we would go to Arizona.
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Occasionally.
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They would go all throughout the country, but we would just kind of follow them around there, um.
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And then Jerry, who drove war party um.
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He initially owned it.
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He passed away in 2010, um pancreatic cancer, um.
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So they took a few years off.
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Then his nancy um wanted to go racing again.
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Uh, she didn't like the boat in storage, so she um recruited bill diaz to drive the boat for her.
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Um.
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So they drove the boat up until 2020 whenever she passed away.
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Um.
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And then bill diaz kept the boat and then I started driving it.
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I got my license last year in it and then I am fully driving it this year okay, so this is really your first year to do that yeah, I started driving an open boat, so a slower boat with stock eliminator it's like nine second class in a thousand feet back in 2018, and then I moved up classes in 2023 to a top eliminator and then the following year I went ahead and I still actually stole my brother's alcohol engine because he had taken a break from racing.
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So I went ahead and just popped that right into my boat, went even faster, ran about 620, 630s and then for two years I actually won the championship last year in Pro Comp Flat and then so I just decided to keep on moving up.
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Absolutely, and that's a you know, I've watched boats race and I've watched it on TV and that To me that looks so much scarier than driving a car, so is it scary to be in that boat?
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Um, it is definitely.
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It has different dangers.
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I mean, in a car you have fire.
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Um so that kind of makes me nervous, uh, but uh water, yeah, if you do happen to crash, it can do some damage because you're rolling in it, it catches you, but it's also your momentum still pulls you, so it can definitely do some damage.
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But it's an awesome feeling going down the lake that fast.
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I'll bet it is.
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I don't want to do it, but I can imagine that it is exciting.
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I'm just you know what, I'm not really a big water person.
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I mean like I don't like water over my head.
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So being in a boat and thinking about that is not my thing.
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So I admire people that do that even more because of what you do and how fast you go and who gives me the willies.
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But I love watching it.
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That's the thing.
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I love watching it for sure.
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So you know you can be doing a lot of things on the weekends other than racing a boat.
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Why do you keep going back and doing that on the weekends instead of hanging out at home or, you know, going to the pool or wherever?
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I mean, I've been a part of boat racing, yeah, since I was a little kid.
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Um, actually, one of my favorite races used to be marble falls.
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Right now we're taking a break, um, from that location, but, uh, it used to be my favorite race.
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Uh, my birthday is in august, um, and a lot of our crew members and old, old crew back when I was a kid, all our birthdays were in august, so we always celebrated our birthday there.
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So while other kids were, you know, having sleepovers, birthday parties at different parks, I was at the boat races, uh, with our racing family, uh, watching races.
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So it's just been a part of my life.
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I couldn't imagine not doing it.
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Um and yeah, but racing, it's just a huge family.
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Um, everyone is out there to support each other.
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You can go and ask for parts to your next door neighbor.
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You may be racing them next round, they don't care, they're going to give you the part if you can.
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So it's just a big family.
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It really is, and and that's racing in general.
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I mean, wherever you go, any kind of racing, it really is a family.
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That's what I hear over and over and over from people.
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It's, you know, one of the reasons why they keep going back every weekend is because of the people, because of the people that you spend the time with, for sure.
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So so tell me about your boat.
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Have you always raced?
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You've always raced this boat.
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I take it.
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So tell me about it.
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What kind of boat is it?
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What class is it?
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What color is it?
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All the things.
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So I technically haven't just started racing this boat just this year, but I've always driven the flat bottom style of boat, so there's several different styles.
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So the boat that I drive is a flat bottom, so the bottom is basically fat, flat, and then it's kind of goes to a point at the tip and then obviously the right foot is gas but the left foot actually has cavitation plates in the back of the boat and so that controls how high the nose of the boat is in the water.
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So it's a little bit more of a driving boat, whereas like a hydro, you just have a gas pedal, you just smash it and go A flat bottom.
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You truly have to drive all the way down the course and if you mess up things can go bad.
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So it's definitely a driving.
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It's definitely a driving boat, um, and so that's my favorite um.
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So when I originally started driving I was in an open boat, so, um, kind of like what you see on a lake, similar like that um, but what I'm in now it's a capsule boat.
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So technically there's kind of like the firefighter lid on top yeah and there's a little, basically pod, on the inside of the boat that if you crash it breaks away from the boat yeah um.
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So no one hopefully gets injured.
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The motor can't hit you with things crashing um.
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So I've been driving that style of boat the capsule tabagal flat bottom um just this year so I'm definitely still learning uh I got my license last year, at the very end of last year, but I am truly racing, uh, just this year.
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So we've had two races this year, um already, and I've been very lucky to win both of them.
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Oh, good for you.
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Yeah, so we still have three more to go.
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My next race is actually next week in Oregon at the Dexter Reservoir, so I'm super excited for that.
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I've never been there.
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I know it's beautiful up there, so I'm super excited to go out there and be out there to race up with everyone.
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So I don't think of Texas as being a place where there would be a lot of water for you to race, but apparently there's enough for you to do that.
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Do you go to the same place in Texas, or do you have different places where you race?
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So we race in different places generally.
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So there's some places that we'll race at every year and other places that'll just kind of pop up every once in a while.
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Um.
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So we race on rivers, we race on lakes.
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Um, in Missouri there's actually a man-made um specifically made for drag boat racing track.
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So really it's just kind of finding water and getting the cities and everyone to agree to allow us to come out there and race.
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One of my favorite tracks is actually St Angelo.
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You wouldn't think out in the middle of West Texas there'd be a lake, but there is, uh, and that's actually one of my favorite tracks okay, all right.
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So the lake in missouri, is it like near the, the branson lake of the ozarks?
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and they actually built this did you say they built it for racing?
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Yeah, so, uh, lucas oil actually built it.
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It's on their property.
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Uh, so it's actually called lake lucas.
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Um, it's in wheatland, wheatland, missouri, yeah, um, so it's purposely built just for just for boat racing okay, and do they let other people go on the lake when there's not boat racing?
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no, no no it's it's a really skinny, just straight, long, long track um, and then it has like two little out ramps where you can drive and get out, get off of the track on both sides.
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So it's truly purposely built just just for drag racing.
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Okay, that's interesting for sure.
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What's your favorite?
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You said you've never been to the one that you're going to, but do you have a favorite one that you?
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have been to Um.
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I really liked marble falls.
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Right now we not racing there, so um, san angelo is probably my second favorite.
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I love the track.
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It's great for spectators um.
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You can completely line the whole track with spectators.
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Everyone can see everything.
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It's really open, um, and I've had a lot of great luck there okay well then, that's why you love that.
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I won a few there, so I do really enjoy it.
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Yeah, that's good, and the more you win there, the more confidence you have and the more you win.
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So that's kind of a goes in circles, doesn't it?
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So in boat racing do you have marketing partners like you do, like car racing would do?
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And if so, do you want to mention any of your partners?
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We do have some sponsors, but it's not like quite as big as car racing.
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It's definitely a little bit more difficult to get.
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Drag bull racing isn't quite as popular, but I do have quite a few sponsors.
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They're more like a lot of them are just kind of like people and family friends that help out.
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Okay, but people like Steve Pagan, Robin Banks, Fastline Fabrication, DSM Racing.
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They've helped me out quite a bit and I definitely appreciate everything that they've done so and you know you don't have to share particulars.
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But other than the cost of the boat, which I know can probably vary when you go to the go to the race on the weekend, what are some of the expenses?
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You would have Gas for the boat, do you pay like pit pass or you know some registration?
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I guess it would be called for you Tell me about some of those costs on the weekend.
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Yeah, so we have registration.
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So we register the boat and then, depending on what association you race at, you get so many bands with it.
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So some places you have to even drive, you have to purchase a driver's band, whereas others you'll get a driver's band and like three crew members.
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So it just kind of depends where it's at, and they're generally like $100 each.
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And then you have to buy car passes and RV passes, if we do have an RV, if it's close enough.
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But a lot of our big cost is going to be diesel to get the trailer and the boat to the location.
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So, like this year, we're doing the World Series of Top Alcohol Flat.
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It's kind of the first national series that we're trying to get every.
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We're trying to hit every association within the country to try to kind of spread the wealth share what Top of Cal Flat is.
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So we were in Bakersfield, california, for our first race.
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We were here in San Angelo, texas.
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The second we're going to Dexter, oregon, here in a week and then we're going to Wheatland, missouri, and then we're going to go back to Bakersfield, california.
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So we're kind of traveling all over the country.
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So it's a lot of fuel, lot of fuel and it'll be a lot of hotel costs as well.
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Right, those are kind of bigger, bigger items for us.
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Yeah, yeah, for sure, and and those are.
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So that's like five races, do you and?
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And are those all one?
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You said different series, so are they all different series?
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And what series would those be?
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So there's different associations.
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So this year we're trying to kind of create our own series.
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So we're hitting all the different associations.
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So there's technically five associations within large associations within the US.
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You have NJBA out in California, you have ADBA uh in Arizona.
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Yeah.
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CDBA is in Columbia, it's, it's the Oregon kind of up Northwest.
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Sdba is Southern drag boat association.
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It's mainly here in Texas, a little bit Oklahoma, and then KDBA is Kentuckyucky drag boat association.
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It's there in kentucky, oklahoma as well.
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okay, um yeah yeah, so that's pretty cool.
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Are there a lot of women that race in in boat racing?
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there's not a ton of us.
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There's maybe 20 20 total out of all the associations.
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Okay, so there's not a ton.
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There are two other female flat bottom divers like myself.
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So when we do happen to meet each other at the track, we always go talk, hang out a little bit as much as we can.
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We always try to support each other on social media.
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Yeah there's not a ton of us, unfortunately, but it definitely has been growing within the last several years, which is very good to see.
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Yeah, absolutely so.
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Where and where are those ladies from, Do you know?
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Um, jojo is from California, I believe, and I think Tanya is in Arizona.
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I'm not exactly sure.
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Okay, so you're the only Texas girl, probably, or one of the few.
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For the flat bottom, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, there's, yeah, there's only, there's only three of us right now.
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Okay, All right.
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Well, it'll grow once they see you race.
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And that's the thing you have to spread the word.
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And whenever you go to these tracks, you call them tracks, which I knew that.
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But I always have to stop and think, because to me it doesn't seem like a track, but yet it is.
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And then you know it's getting people there to watch, because if people come out and watch and they love boats, which is why they would come to watch you know my husband loves motorcycles so he likes going to the motorcycle races, Right, and so if you can get them out there to watch and promote, then you never know it's going to spark somebody's interest to do that for sure.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So, like in San Angelo, we did uh, we call it a show and shine.
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So we like, take your boat out there, you shine it all up and then you just let public kind of look at it.
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So we had our Steve Pagan had a sponsor, he was our sponsor, he had a.
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He has a local bar called the Tilted Bug in San Angelo.
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So we took all the alcohol, flat tobacco, flat bottoms there.
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We were there for like three, three, three hours probably got to look at it.
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You know, just trying to bring awareness.
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Like hey, if you go down five miles at the lake, we're here racing.
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Come out, come out and see us.
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Um, yeah, I always love show and shines, I always try to.
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But the capsule boat is really cool to kind of help the kids and let them sit inside the capsules.
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Really cool to kind of help the kids and let them sit inside the capsules.
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Um, some of them get a little scared if you close the capsule, so just gotta, gotta see what they like.
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But uh, yeah, I love, love, uh trying to promote this sport and especially getting kids excited about this.
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Yeah, yeah, cause they'll say mom, dad, we want to go watch the boats race.
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You know?
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Yeah for sure, dad, we want to go watch the boats race, you know?
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Yeah for sure.
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Those are the kind of things that I think we don't do enough in all of motorsports Because, like I live in Kalamazoo, michigan, and they have a lot of big races and you know it's a nice track and it's been here a long time, you'd be surprised at how many people don't even know it's here, and they may have lived here, but if they have no reason to be involved or have any connections that race, they really don't know.
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And so that's the thing about getting the word out.
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And a bar is a perfect place because it's not a boat dealer, where you're already going to find people that like boats, because people that like boats probably know about the boat racing, right, exactly, yeah to find people that like boats, because people that like boats probably know about the boat racing right, exactly.
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Yeah, it's people that don't know exactly know that it's there and they hopefully you can get them interested in the sport um, so that they actually come out and show up, yeah there was a.
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I went to a conference one time and they talked about the big piece of the pie.
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So if the audience is a pie, the smaller sliver is the people that already know about it and the big piece of the pie are the people we have to reach.